this is a lousy economy. 1.3% gdp growth is lousy and yet on wednesday night, mitt romney said again and by the way, barack obama backs up this claim that either one of them will create 12 million jobs in four years. that is three million jobs a year or 250,000 jobs a month. we got 114. at 1.3% economic growth there's not an economist in this country who thinks it will be higher than 3% in 2013 and probably similar in 2014 and 2015. that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to